General Disability Lifestyle

Posted on: Tue, Nov 17 2009 10:56 PM

Posted by: PerfectlyImperfect Posts: 1,581

I am frustrated. Frustrated is an understatement. Some of you may remember me mentioning recently that I joined a FB group for people with Ectrodactyly. It's been a great experience so far. However, there is a woman on there who's granddaughter has ectro. and she believes that if she prays hard enough, God will grow her granddaughter's fingers and toes. And believes that anyone with ectro. could do this and if God wanted them healed, then they would be.


WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!

I don't need to be healed! I am perfect the way I am. I am a Christian, too, and since I am, I believe God made me. Therefore, who am I to question how He created me? He is perfect and all knowing and all powerful and if He didn't want me born with ectro., then I wouldn't have been, in my opinion. The way she says things, it's like she questions anyone's faith if they don't believe this. My faith isn't any less because I am happy with how God made me. And I surely don't need prayer to be healed. What do I need prayer to be healed for when I don't think there's anything to heal? In fact, I think that by believing God made me how I am for a purpose and trusting He has a reason for it, proves just how much faith I do have.

**steps off soap box**

Ok, I'm done rambling. Anyone have any thoughts? Do you think you need to be "healed"? Or do you believe God has a reason? Or maybe you don't think there's a God or a reason? Anything?

Posted on: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:25 PM

Posted by: jamie Posts: 500

 I believe in God with every fiber of my being. I would not be on this earth without Him. I feel that He gave my diseases as a test of my faith and to be a testiment of His works. I do not need to be "healed". I feel that asking Him to take away what He has given to me is the same as shunning any of His gifts to me and mankind. He knows the plans for me. I have always said if you want to make God laugh, tell Him "your" plans!!! I truly believe that God makes each one of us the way we are for a reason. People may ask what is the reason??? That is not for us to know or question. It is enough to know that is what He wants. These statements are from my heart and not meant to offend anyone.

Posted on: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:38 PM

Posted by: PerfectlyImperfect Posts: 1,581

Well said, Jamie. I just get really defensive when someone insinuates and pretty much says in black and white that God will make me whole when I get to heaven. I'm sorry, I didn't realize to be worthy for heaven I had to have 10 fingers and toes. I have spent more time on being spiritually ready, not physically!

Grrrr..

People irritate me!

Posted on: Wed, Nov 18 2009 5:21 AM

Posted by: bonnie Posts: 1,451

It's hard to be in any group, particularly when there are individuals whose beliefs are very contrary to our own.  But I would give some thought to this--is it truly "Christian" to be angry about this, or is it instead better to be "forgiving?"  I believe that God does not want us to to spread anger in the world, but to hold hands even with those most irritating to us as that is the only way we will ever manage to have Peace in this world.

"Do unto others . . .etc."  She is probably as irritated with you.  I would let this anger go, if possible, and try to find it in your heart to seek the love that God would like us to hold. 

Pray for her to to be visited by the Holy Spirit and given the more appropriate POV regarding disability, so that she can pray for a better view of disability, so that she can handle the various differences we bring into the world, as Gifts of God.  Hard to do, but easier for your own spiritual growth to seek a loving view of humanity, even those who are just "pains in the a**," than to hold that anger, and allow anger to ever grow in your heart toward another person,  who is after all, also God's child. 

I don't want to preach here, and believe you are BOTH as God created you, perfect in your own ways, and will myself pray that God will  send that message to each of you.  Perf; You Are Both As God created you.  Now your hearts need to find that faith to understand that beauty in your own faith and prayer.

Luv, bonnie

Posted on: Wed, Nov 18 2009 6:01 AM

Posted by: TriDog Posts: 2,799

This is one of my problems with organized religon.  It attracts too many weak minded people that think that their god can magically change the way things are. 

Now, I'm not picking on anyone or religon specifically.  If you're a regilous person and it brings you joy, peace and happiness, that's wonderful.  That's what it's suppose to do and I support it and you completely.   I'll also fight for a person right to practice their religon.  But some people just don't understand where to draw the line where religon stops and reality begins. 

As I kid, I breifly went to catholic school.  I clearly remember being taught that god created us in his (or her) own image.   It seems that the woman that Perfy is talking about must have missed that day in Sunday School class. 

BTW, Perfy...  You are perfect. 

Posted on: Wed, Nov 18 2009 6:48 AM

Posted by: mcjane Posts: 1,291

Well......I don't want to appear to be a fence straddler....but I have two points of view here.   One, it is true that anger is not a Fruit Of The Spirit....like Peace and Joy and Loving Kindness....but it is also true there are times for Righteous Anger.   Even the Lord got mad!  Both the Big Guy AND His Son.  Remember the Flood?  And Christ turned the tables in the temple and whipped the moneychangers for daring to make a mockery.  So, if the woman is speaking falsely for God...maybe it's the Christian thing to whip some church ass.

Posted on: Wed, Nov 18 2009 9:16 AM

Posted by: PerfectlyImperfect Posts: 1,581

Honestly, I don't feel angry. I feel defensive. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but that's how I feel.

Jane, LOVE LOVE LOVE your post. Even if I don't necessarily feel angry, I do believe you made a great point.

Posted on: Wed, Nov 18 2009 9:36 AM

Posted by: bonnie Posts: 1,451

hmmmm.  I like mcjane's Post too.  Not fence straddeling here, but a great point for a good theological discussion.  Feeling defensive is not good in the group,and you should not have to feel that way, and it does make sense.  And I feel defensive for sort of lecturing you.  But do I feel the Sermon on the Mount gives us some guidance on our attitude towards other people. . .

Some more thought for me on this.  I feel strongly about loving your enemies, but it's hard to live around those who you feel are attacking you.  Love theology. bonnie.